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Zombie Genre and you're opinions
« on: June 14, 2015, 12:53:17 AM »
Hello I have been very interested in everything relating zombies and I feel like there some things I would like to get you're opinions on.

Lets start with zombie movies I have seen loads of zombie movies that are just awful and some that are alright and a very VERY few that are good but that is not what I want to talk about I want to talk about the characters in the movies. The main characters always seem to be the type that thought a zombie outbreak would never happen and most of the time they are complete cowards or just to under skilled to survive a long amount. What do you guys think? Would a zombie movie be better if the characters were more aware of what is going on? or would that just make the movie more boring due to them doing better then regular people.

Next is the zombies them selves a lot of the time they are the normal fast ish zombies that shamble around. Would a zombie movie be better with more varieties of zombies? or would that just make it to confusing for you guys. Also do you think zombies should just want to eat humans? I mean meat is meat after all I personally think zombies should not just want the brain but the hole thing.

Well this is all I wanted to say for now I will most likely add more later. Final words......Not enough good modern zombie movies....

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Re: Zombie Genre and you're opinions
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2015, 10:36:29 PM »
I do like zombie games. Zombie movies? Not so much. I cant put a finger on it, but mostly its because people act pretty retarded in zombie movies, and its too painful to watch.

To the special zombies thing: I dont think zombies themselves are very realistic. Zombies would kill themselves off after a few weeks (starvation, natural hurdles like rivers, predators... and well, humans (being the apex predator and all)). Making them even less realistic by giving them mythical properties that do not really foot on physical possibilities (read: making them super strong, fast, spit acid, invisible, extend limbs or tentacles for dozens of metres or explode) doesnt help films (makes them even trashier) but makes sense in games to add a challenge (slow zombies only go so far for a challenge... and making them simply bullet sponges really doesnt help gameplay - though the Tank in L4D and L4D2 really are just that. Annoying Bulletsponges.). Zombie games cant cope with the horror of having to kill or be chased down by your neighbours while you are only armed with a kitchen knife (which does absolutely nothing), so they give you the superpowered zombies to scare you. Which doesnt really work, but is more fun than the (bulletspongy) shamblers are or would ever be.
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Re: Zombie Genre and you're opinions
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2015, 11:58:34 PM »
I do like zombie games. Zombie movies? Not so much. I cant put a finger on it, but mostly its because people act pretty retarded in zombie movies, and its too painful to watch.

Absolutely! That is exactly why I can't watch "scary" movies either.. Too silly
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Re: Zombie Genre and you're opinions
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2015, 04:28:52 PM »
There was a good video-store around where I grew up and my favorite part of it where in the shady backroom, next to the pornshelf, where they kept the low budget horror and gore films. I watched most of the shitty movies they brought in and most of them to my enjoyment. What I like about the underground scene is the innovative way to create effects and scenes which isn't really found in bigger modern zombie movies. The acting doesn't bother me unless it's too "try hard". Evil Dead is one of my favorite movies!
Other than 7 days later and Dawn of the Dead, which I think is great, I can't recall the name of any newer zombie movie except Wyrmwood. It was released last year and it's like a tribute to the genre. It has that b-feeling with some crazy ideas and props, twists, blood, humour and a few interesting characters without too much attachment and drama. Good cinematography and the acting is OK. I highly recommend it!

Yea it would be cool too see a bit more variation with zombies in the movies, I haven't really seen too much of that other then in the climaxes. Games has done a little more experiment with different types which is nice, but where goes the line between a zombie and "monster"? The desire for brain? The mindlessness? Before they whole apocalypse genre got popular them zombies had a pretty defined role whether they had a part in a movie, book or RPG.

 Any suggestions - game or movie? Has anyone played Project Zomboid?

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Re: Zombie Genre and you're opinions
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 05:06:52 AM »
I do like zombie games. Zombie movies? Not so much. I cant put a finger on it, but mostly its because people act pretty retarded in zombie movies, and its too painful to watch.

To the special zombies thing: I don't think zombies themselves are very realistic. Zombies would kill themselves off after a few weeks (starvation, natural hurdles like rivers, predators... and well, humans (being the apex predator and all)).

First off most animals (Lions,Tigers,Dogs,Cats,Bears,anything I forgot to say) would avoid killing much less eating zombies due to there rotting and disease ridden corpse. As for the starvation even in real life researchers say any real zombie virus would kill the internal organs (stomach) Rendering starvation irrelevant. Being the actual virus only uses the base instinct of hunting,killing,and eating everything. Also I think zombies would just be pulled by rivers wherever it takes them... (And If you are wondering yes some researchers are looking for a possibility and some are trying to create a zombie virus just to cure it....Idiots)

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Re: Zombie Genre and you're opinions
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2015, 11:06:28 AM »
First off most animals (Lions,Tigers,Dogs,Cats,Bears,anything I forgot to say) would avoid killing much less eating zombies due to there rotting and disease ridden corpse.

I strongly disagree. Many hunting animals are drawn to rotting flesh, because it indicates a basically free meal. You dont even have to rely on the natural scavengers like crows or vultures: even dogs (who would be out of owners quick) dont actually shun rotting meat.

As for the starvation even in real life researchers say any real zombie virus would kill the internal organs (stomach) Rendering starvation irrelevant.

So, how long do you think a limb can work if the now rotted intestines stop providing nourishment? I am talking about starvation on the cellular level here. It wouldnt take terribly long until the oxygen and nourishment starved muscles of a zombie would stop working for good, even if the virus somehow changed the metabolism so the muscle could eat itself properly (which it cant without a working bloodsystem under normal circumstances).

Being the actual virus only uses the base instinct of hunting,killing,and eating everything.

So, stuff that is mostly located in the reptilian brain, which is conveniently starved of oxygen and nourishment like all other bodyparts. That doesnt help much, tbh. Unless you have the virus remote controlling the slowly failing body, which then would give you another day or two...

(And If you are wondering yes some researchers are looking for a possibility and some are trying to create a zombie virus just to cure it....Idiots)

Citation needed. No one would fund a bio weapon like a zombie virus (which kind of relies on the body and the person actually dying). And with no funds, no research. Not that a proper researcher would do something like that - researchers are usually smarter than I am, and should figure out the problem of starving dead bodies in even less time than I did. But then again, there are "creationist scientists". Those would probably have about the right cognitive abilities, but they dont actually count.
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Re: Zombie Genre and you're opinions
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2015, 06:15:01 PM »
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